Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Speaker A: How's it going, folks? I'mike with drone deer recovery podcast.
[00:00:03] Speaker B: This is Kevin, episode five, coming at you conversation with Marcus, an actual game warden in Florida. Plus we talk about LP, twelve issues, spotlight issues.
[00:00:13] Speaker A: Monsters. Do you bring up monsters hunting? Yeah. We talk about your first gun. You want to buy your first gun.
[00:00:19] Speaker B: You don't want to miss it. Stick around, it's gonna be good.
[00:00:24] Speaker A: You.
How's it going, folks? Welcome back to the drone deer recovery podcast. I'mike this is Kevin.
[00:00:36] Speaker C: Hey.
[00:00:37] Speaker A: And we got Marcus on a zoom call here with us. He's sitting in front of us on a computer. So thanks for being here.
[00:00:44] Speaker B: First ever guest.
[00:00:45] Speaker A: Yeah, first ever guest. Thanks for being here, Marcus. Thanks for being on oh, no problem.
So a lot of these questions probably that people want us to direct to you is probably law and your opinions on how certain things are written because of you being involved in being a game warden in Florida.
[00:01:04] Speaker C: My name is Janice Marcus. I'm out of central Florida here in ocala. I do work for FWC.
I got with drone deer recovery earlier in the season, probably around August time frame, but I was talking to him since like June or July because I think it's a very good concept. Over the years, we've seen so many people lose deer when they don't need to. Having a service like this is just a very big additive to what we can offer to individuals out there so we can make sure that there's not a ton of deer shot and unrecovered over their aspect of hunting.
[00:01:44] Speaker A: Yeah, so obviously the big question is all the time, is this legal in my state? What type of work or due diligence did you have to do to try to figure out if you're allowed to do this in Florida?
[00:01:59] Speaker C: Well, the big thing is that they allow dog tracking. They should allow drones. Now, there are certain aspects through the FAA, you can't find national parks forces, WMAS. However, they also mentioned in there that if you go get permission from the people that run the areas, you can do certain things with drones. And one of them has been the recovery of deer. Because when you go out there with the dog and all that, the whole aspect of taking game is from scouting to recovery. So like I said, if you can use dogs to go out and recover the deer as an aid, you should be able to use drones. And we haven't had an issue with it yet here in Florida.
[00:02:50] Speaker B: Is that legally the way it's written or is that just kind of a common sense understanding the department has?
[00:02:56] Speaker C: It's just kind of one of those more common sense type which allows them to do it because it does state. And then we have laws on what you need to do when tracking with a dog like that to be on a leash and all that. So you have to be with the permit holder and all that because you're using as an aid to recover. So we have been using drones down here. I've been using one. I don't know, a couple of the people in the state have also been using ones, and we haven't had much of an issue with it yet.
[00:03:30] Speaker A: Yeah. So have you had people call you to ask that question? Because a lot of people that watch the content, their first thing that they do is they call their local warden and ask them the question about using a drone. Have you been getting any of those calls?
[00:03:46] Speaker C: Yes, I have actually gotten a couple of calls from that, more or less from other individuals that also want to get into the business as well. They'll call and be like, hey. Or they'll call into FWC and be like, hey, are we allowed to use this? And again, like I said, you just got to follow all the FAA guidelines when it comes to the WMA, the state force and all that type of stuff, and just the other aspects of invading people's privacy when they fly over houses and all that.
As long as you're able to follow all the guidelines and rules, we haven't had an issue with it yet.
[00:04:25] Speaker B: One question I have, how long have you been a game warden, Marcus?
[00:04:28] Speaker C: I've been a game warden for a few years now.
[00:04:30] Speaker B: For a few years, yes. One of the big debates that people say is having access to technology like this is going to lead to more bad shots, more just sloppy shooting, hunting, whatever or poaching.
[00:04:44] Speaker A: That's their biggest thing.
[00:04:45] Speaker B: But I'm curious if in your experience, is there a lot of deer that go are there a lot of bad shots?
Do you get calls or find out about a lot of people that wound deer that aren't able to recover them? Or does the state have a way of tracking that data?
[00:05:04] Speaker C: We do not.
When it comes to all we do is once they tape the deer, then they harvest it. So then they'll go in and they'll check their deer in. But if they have a bad shot on it, if it gets away, they don't actually harvest it, then they don't check it in. So no, we don't have any way of tracking it.
[00:05:23] Speaker B: That's one of the most confusing things for me is why would the state not want to know multiple deer getting shot with only one tag? Because the buck was.
[00:05:35] Speaker A: Mean.
[00:05:35] Speaker B: In your opinion, Marcus, is it just fear of the technology being abused that's leading states know Michigan and New York, Illinois, to just try to ban it outright?
[00:05:46] Speaker C: My thoughts on it. Again, I'm speaking on all this on my behalf, not as on the agency for FWC. These are all my thoughts on it. But I've also had a call where a guy calls in and says, hey, can you use the drone to find deer that are bedding. I was like, we can. He's like, well, could you guys come out in the next couple of days and fly over the property I own and let me know where they're bedding? That's where you start to get in this gray area where it's like, okay, now I'm using it for scouting. Like I'm able to kind of tell you guys where the deer are and now you can go hunt that area. So obviously I was like, I explained to him, no, we can't do that because that's going to be on the aspect of using the drone in a way that it wasn't designed to be utilized. So it could be a fear moving forward. Because I do know drone deer recovery, you guys have very high standards on what you can and cannot do to ensure the integrity of the recovery. And people aren't using the drones for abusive purposes, which being out there, we.
[00:06:53] Speaker A: Have to regulate that in our own office, right? Like when we get those calls, it's like we aren't going to do it, but these drones are available for anybody to buy. And that's what will be hard on the whole aspect of drone deer recovery will be people that are buying them for themselves and then using them in such a way. And it's going to be hard to regulate if a guy can buy a drone and go fly his property to find deer to go hunt. But I still go back and say that there are enough good people in the world that they're not just going to use it to go find a big one and go kill it. Then I go back to will there be people that do that? Yes, but majority will not. They just won't. There's people that don't use trail cans because they don't feel that that is to them fair chase. Then they just won't do it. So it'll go back to each human himself what type of person he is.
[00:07:52] Speaker C: Then you look at it in aspects as well. It's like we allow people to go hunting and do all that, but yet you still have people that want to hunt at night with a light. You still have people that want to throw corn on WMAS to bait deer in which here in the state of Florida, you cannot do. So when every aspect comes around. There are legal ways to do a lot of things, but you will have your little outliers. And unfortunately, a lot of those are what set the standards and regulations when people make rules.
[00:08:20] Speaker B: And it seems logical that states have to clarify laws with new technology that's emerging. What just absolutely dumbfounds us is when states say laws that were written before thermal recovery was even available are totally fine, don't need updating, don't need clarifying.
That's where personally for me, it just becomes like, what a ridiculous stance. Let's at least look at new technology and figure out how to regulate it. And here in Ohio, we would like there to be maybe you should be required to have a license or some kind of a permit or a register with your Department of Wildlife or something.
[00:09:00] Speaker A: You had said you guys would have some type of program down there for something similar, not necessarily drone deer recovery, but in other types of management stuff.
[00:09:10] Speaker B: Right.
[00:09:12] Speaker A: Meaning that if you want to do a certain thing, you need to have a permit. You were telling me about it when I was talking to you probably two months ago, and forgive me if you don't remember because we talk about a lot of different things. You had said that people hold a special permit maybe, correct?
[00:09:30] Speaker C: Yeah. So we have different programs. So we have like trappers. They come out and catch nuisance animals that run through the state. We have a program called Snap which they'll go out and nuisance alligators. We contract them through the state and all that type of stuff so they have an actual license and everything. They can go do it for the organization.
[00:09:51] Speaker B: Does Florida have like someone was reading have a problem with Pythons or something and there's an application for thermal drones in Pythons, or mean there could be.
[00:10:04] Speaker C: I haven't heard anything. I do know that we have obviously the Python issue down in South Florida. I haven't heard of anybody using thermal drones for, but I could see how it could be useful. The only issue you're going to have is through the FAA going over the Everglades and all that, how it's like a national park and the regulations when it comes to flying drones in those areas.
[00:10:25] Speaker A: Yeah, but you go back to the Snap program, there's guys that get licensed to be able to do that type of stuff. As you were talking about trapping.
[00:10:36] Speaker C: Correct.
[00:10:37] Speaker A: I see it being like that with drone deer recovery. If these states have so much fear about everybody's just going to have a drone and go out and recover carcasses for people, then create a program, like create a program that somebody has to go through, be licensed and hold a permit. When we say licensed, we are all licensed. The way it is right now. We have a part 107 remote puds licensed through the FAA to fly drones. But what we're talking about is a permit held by the state or something. If they have this big old fear about people using it in a wrong way, make them hold a permit to allow them to do it.
[00:11:16] Speaker C: Correct?
[00:11:17] Speaker B: Yeah.
So I'm curious, from your perspective, game warden, have you ever had an issue where you go out, find a buck, it's wounded, maybe mortally wounded, it's been a lethal hit, but the buck is not yet dead.
You're a drone pilot. You do recoveries for people. You're also a game warden. What is your perspective on the correct way to handle a situation like that. And I asked because yeah, I'm curious to hear your thoughts. Okay.
[00:11:50] Speaker C: When it comes to somebody puts a fatal shot on a deer, it goes for example, we had one where they had a dog go out based on once they track it and all that, depending on what season it is to utilize that particular aspect. So if it's an archery or muzzle loader season, they have to use a muzzle loader or something to kind of put the deer down at that point in time. But you got to be able to determine that it was going to expire. I've seen so many times where somebody will shoot a deer in the back leg, and then they'll call a deer or a dog out to track it. They'll go track the deer down, use the dog, basically tire the deer out, and then put it down that way. Obviously, that's not the correct way to do it, and we will handle that situation when it occurs. But that's where the drones will come in very handy, because you could fly a drone up, you can go see, hey, that shot was in this area. It's not going to die per se, it's going to live. And then you can move on and kind of go from there. You don't have to go in there, bump the deer, tire it out, get people else out there to do things and do things you're not supposed to be.
[00:13:03] Speaker B: I mean, because I imagine florida is the same as most states where you're not legally allowed to hunt with the aid of a drone. So if you go out there and you see a deer, he's not getting back up on his feet. He has maybe an hour of life left or something, and you can identify that from the drone. So ethically, morally, whatever, do you as a hunter, do you go put the deer out of its misery, or do you let it expire naturally?
What would you do in that moral quandary?
[00:13:33] Speaker C: Most of the time, what a lot of people do is they will call a game warden at that point in time. They'll call one of us to be like, hey, hit this deer, I got a lot of blood. They got a tracker out.
A lot of the dog trackers around here are pretty good. They'll give us a call, and we'll make the determination on whether or not we got to put it down. But a lot of times what they will do is they'll go out there with the dogs. If the deer is not running, not doing anything, it's laying there, you can tell it's about to die. Usually they'll go ahead and put it down at that point in time, and then they'll harvest it on their check it in on their reports.
[00:14:06] Speaker B: Got it.
[00:14:07] Speaker A: How many recoveries have you done as a drone pilot in Florida so far?
[00:14:13] Speaker C: So far I've done five deer recovery and I've done three dogs.
[00:14:19] Speaker A: That's actually not as much as I was thinking. When's the hunting get really good, the.
[00:14:25] Speaker C: Archery started in the september time frame.
I was just getting started up at that point in time, so I probably missed a few calls during that time. Muzzle loader. I didn't get any too much. I have had a lot here since rifle season has started. However, due to not having as many of us around, I've had people from northern georgia call me. I've had people from alabama call me and be like, that's like a 1012 hours trip. Just the one direction to go up to you guys. So I have a feeling that once this technology starts to get out a little bit more because like I said, I've actually had a lot of dogs here lately.
[00:15:09] Speaker A: That when people find out about things.
[00:15:11] Speaker C: Like lost pets, correct?
Yeah, all the ones have been the dog got out, was chasing something or it got scared by noise, and then they asked us to come out and try to assist in finding it.
[00:15:27] Speaker A: Have you had any successful drone pet recoveries?
[00:15:32] Speaker C: I've had one out of the three.
[00:15:34] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:15:34] Speaker C: So the one the other night we were able to find one was in a residential area, which was really hard because like we said, we don't want to fly down into people's backyards, start turning our spotlight on and start invading privacy and all that type of.
[00:15:56] Speaker B: You.
[00:15:56] Speaker A: Would you say that maybe not as many people call a drone pilot in florida because the size deer you have is florida known for big trophy deer.
[00:16:07] Speaker C: We have not been known for these massive deer. However, once they change the regulations to where you have to have a ten inch beam on one side or three points, we have started to get a little bigger deer down here.
The need for having a drone pilot come out hasn't really been quite as big down here.
Just because nobody really wants to call out a drone pilot for a little four point.
[00:16:37] Speaker A: You had said you got to have ten inch beam. How in the world does a hunter figure out if it's ten inches before it kills it?
[00:16:45] Speaker C: It's got to be one of those ones.
You just got to be confident when you take the shot.
We've had some people that have been pretty close.
[00:16:54] Speaker A: Wow.
[00:16:56] Speaker B: Because every time I've heard a point.
[00:16:59] Speaker A: Size but inch size okay, well, learning something new today.
[00:17:05] Speaker B: I tend to have a pretty low trust on how accurate hunters are in the moment because you always go out in the drone and it's like, oh, you know what? This is not quite as big as what I thought.
[00:17:14] Speaker A: Yeah, that's like the one we just found this morning. He called me so guy was like, it was a big one. It had to be 1012 points. It happened quick. Cut the corner of the food plot and I had to shoot fast. And I found him this morning, daddy was gut shot. And I was like, I don't know, guy. And then he was at work and he called me. He was like, well, what do you think? I'm like, well, it's a buck, but I don't think he's as big as he, so but it happens. It is what it so maybe not as many people are using drone deer recovery in Florida because the trophies aren't as big. But you're saying that it will start becoming a thing with the antler restriction and then just maybe not knowing about it, right?
[00:18:03] Speaker C: Correct. I think that's more the biggest thing is a lot of people don't know about the drone services because obviously being out in the wild with a lot of these hunters and other even dog tracking, they don't know a lot about it. So I'll go and be like, hey, this is kind of what you could offer. It's probably going to get bigger here moving forward in the future. And I'm not here to say that drones are going to replace dogs because down here some of the areas are super thick. It's a lot hotter down here. We don't lose a lot of the leaves on the trees like you guys do up north.
Dog hunters are still very vital or dog trackers are still very vital down here. They play a great role. It's just drones are kind of like one of those supplementary options that you can add on top of it that can really change the aspect of trying to recover the deer.
[00:18:57] Speaker B: As you were mentioning to me earlier, that Deer department started the drone program. There's a couple of UK Mordens that have flying drones. Can you just tell us a little bit about what the department is using drones for and kind of the use case that you see?
[00:19:12] Speaker C: It's pretty much like what a lot of the other law enforcement, firefighters and stuff like that do. We use it for search and recovery and that type of aspects. Lost hunters, people out on boats and stuff like that. It's just one of those little extra handy features that we can add into our little bag that we utilize when trying to help out the public in the area.
[00:19:35] Speaker A: That's cool. So are you guys allowed to use DJI drones if you guys are a state agency? Because we get a whole, you know, DJI is blacklisted. Am I going to be able to buy this or is the government going to come take it away? Are you guys as state agencies allowed to use DJI drones?
[00:19:55] Speaker C: Unfortunately here in the state of Florida, we are not authorized to use DJIs in the state.
[00:20:03] Speaker A: Private individual are allowed to fly DJI drones?
[00:20:06] Speaker C: As of right now, yes. We haven't had any issues with me.
[00:20:09] Speaker A: Personally concerned that you won't be allowed.
[00:20:12] Speaker C: Well, there's so many talks within the Senate right now about banning DJI throughout the entire state.
[00:20:21] Speaker B: They're more hardcore than any other state from what understand.
[00:20:28] Speaker C: Yeah, so I don't know, I get emails all the time about DJI possibly like it's going up in the Senate or they're going to pass a bill to where it's not just DJI, it's all China based drones.
[00:20:41] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:20:41] Speaker A: So my thing is I hear them. I hear the people that are saying that if you're watching or if you're listening, I hear you. But it's like saying we're going to ban, like, yeah, that was a thing at one time, but it's not an actual thing. There's some political push to talk about these things. It's good to make DJI pay more taxes or this or that.
I just tell people DJI has been around for too long, and if they actually take DJI away in America, I'm telling you, I just don't see it happening because there's just too big of a market. Nobody else can keep up with the demand. Nobody actually produces such a good drone like the Matrice 30 T. Yes, there's Altel out there making the Max four, but it's not as good. Literally, these companies that are in America, and if you're listening and you do manufacture drones, reach out to us. I'll use them, but I'm telling you, they are so far behind the technology. DJI has been doing this for so many years. It's like I just don't see another company for sure, American made coming and starting right where DJI is at. Just don't see it.
[00:21:54] Speaker B: It'd be cool if it happened. It's just not going to happen. It doesn't look like.
[00:21:58] Speaker A: Yeah, no.
[00:21:58] Speaker B: And I think the other misunderstanding a lot of people have about the banning of drones is that the government isn't going to come take away your drone.
[00:22:06] Speaker A: Are you going to come take my drone?
[00:22:08] Speaker C: I'm not going to come take your drone.
[00:22:11] Speaker B: But it's more like the sale of new drones is going to be prevented. Probably means that your existing drone that you own will become more valuable, not less.
[00:22:20] Speaker A: Possibly. So if you're not allowed to use DJI drones and you're flying other drones, would you say that those drones are just as good as your DJI drone?
[00:22:27] Speaker C: We're still developing our program, so I haven't really gotten into the drone program through our agency or any of the other state agencies, so I can't really talk on those ones.
[00:22:37] Speaker A: All right, sounds good.
[00:22:39] Speaker B: What would our listeners want to ask again?
[00:22:42] Speaker A: But I would say the biggest thing is, does it work in the south with the thick brush like you had already mentioned? It is a lot thicker, but can you find deer down? What are those? They look like little baby palm trees and they grow on the ground and they just kind of bush all over.
[00:23:02] Speaker C: We call them little palm proms, but I've been able to fly over those and see right through them. They haven't really been affecting us down.
[00:23:09] Speaker A: There before with my baby drone back in the day and I was able to look down through that stuff. It wasn't a problem at all. But the biggest problem that I think you might have is not the thermal side of things, but the actual penetration of your RGB camera and the light to look down through thick, thick brush. That's I think the biggest problem.
[00:23:32] Speaker C: Yeah, I've had a couple of issues where it's like I will go and I will see something and then I want to look at it and then I go to turn the spotlight on and I just can't see anything through there.
But like I said, it's one of those things.
It's going to be very beneficial as we move forward when it comes to not only deer recovery, but pets and other things like that. The aspect is just going to be making sure that everybody does it legally and does it the right way so they don't ruin it for everybody else.
[00:24:04] Speaker A: Here's a question you might not want to answer it. Would a guy be allowed to use a thermal drone to go find hogs and then shoot them?
[00:24:12] Speaker C: As of right now, again, reading the law and everything, I would venture to say no, because that's utilizing it to try to take game. Now you do run the aspect of people use thermal scopes at night to utilize the taking of nuisance animals like coyotes and hogs and stuff like that.
So it's one of those ones we'd have to just get and look in the law. And this is where having these drones and all that are kind of skirting on the edge of a lot of them and just have to go from that one. That one's kind of a hard one.
[00:24:54] Speaker A: Do you think that the state of Florida, if they would see a video on YouTube of a guy finding hogs and then pew pew, he shoots him, do you think the state would do something about that?
[00:25:07] Speaker C: I would not know, to be honest.
[00:25:11] Speaker A: And if you don't want to say anything, then just say, I don't like.
[00:25:16] Speaker C: Well, it's like we'll take the aspect of one of the things when drones, when people were coming out, they were using them to find fish. Well, in some states that's legal. You can fly a drone over, hey, there's a whole school of fish over here. Let's drive over there and we're going to start fishing. Well, here in the state of Florida, you can't do waters.
[00:25:35] Speaker A: How far out from Florida do I have to go before that?
[00:25:38] Speaker C: Doesn't that I wouldn't know. I don't know off top of my head.
[00:25:41] Speaker A: I'd have to look up. These are those questions. And the reason I ask you is I have guys reach out to me that want to buy these drones to fly shark bite, like fly it way out. And where my thing is, you can't use a drone to fish. But is that true? If you're way far out and you're not in Florida waters.
[00:26:04] Speaker C: Yeah, so that's going to be all based on the state. And then when you get into the international waters and all that type of stuff, the best thing I could say is if it comes to anything, just reach out to your local DNR, reach out to your federal guys and ask them the question. That's going to be the best bet. I think if more people would just reach out to their organizations around and ask the questions, it'll be a lot easier for them to be able to ensure that they're doing everything correctly rather than, oh, well, my friend told me I can do this or we'd done this before, and blah, blah, blah.
[00:26:39] Speaker A: Yeah, but those agencies might not necessarily know the answer right away because if I ask you a question like you're a warden and I ask you that question now, you might not know what is the proper answer to give.
[00:26:53] Speaker C: Correct. But we do know usually who to go ask to ensure that we get you guys the correct answer.
[00:27:00] Speaker A: Okay, good. That's good.
[00:27:02] Speaker C: So even though I might not know something, I can find somebody that does know the answer.
[00:27:08] Speaker B: So, Marcus, you have a thermal drone.
Do you have kind of your own thermal drone business?
Do you want to talk a little bit about what you're doing, what your interest is outside of being a game warden? Thermal drone?
[00:27:21] Speaker C: So I do have my mid Florida drone solutions down here in Florida.
We got started through you guys with drone deer recovery. So right now we're focusing on that.
We do want to start moving into possible AG spraying here next year.
[00:27:39] Speaker A: Market down there is ripe. It's nuts.
[00:27:45] Speaker C: Especially here in Florida. Like, we're considered the horse capital of the world. We have tons of farms and all that. And then the other aspect as well, because I do work around a lot of hunters and all that get into doing like, food plots for individuals. There have been a couple of companies out there that I've seen you guys get on and talk with other ones that I've researched where a lot of the stuff is liquid. So you could put it in these drones and fly into very remote areas and be able to develop food plots for people that don't want to lug 50 pounds. Bags of lime out there.
[00:28:20] Speaker A: That crazy video that's been floating around out there of a guy picking up a deer with a big drone. Do you think that's something that people could utilize in Florida?
[00:28:34] Speaker C: Maybe some of that stuff happened.
[00:28:38] Speaker A: I picked up a deer, I'm like, see you later. It's pretty wild what they can do. So yeah, I guess people thought it was fake originally, and so I wanted to make a more in depth video of this is what it can do. But I actually believe that that is one part that drones will. Be used for? For know, maybe not on your local home farm if you can ride your side by side back there. But dude, in some of those places in Florida, you'll never get a side by side back there. Like, wouldn't it be a lot easier having a guy there, take the drone back there a mile, hook it up, bring it out?
Sounds like.
[00:29:19] Speaker C: There'S so many things drones will be used for in the future.
[00:29:22] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, that's what I tell people all the time. The industry in general as a whole will continue to grow. Like thinking that we're peaking. We're not even getting started, really.
[00:29:35] Speaker B: Yeah. Marcus things like natural disasters, stuff like that, you're pretty well connected to the state.
Do you see a future where privately owned businesses like yourself can be of assistance to the state through response to natural disasters, flooding?
Is that something you're looking into or interested in down there in Florida?
[00:30:01] Speaker C: I have, I've looked into possibly getting a COA so I can go try to reach out to a lot of these organizations to be like, hey, if you need us, so try to get with FEMA or we have one of the largest national forests in the southeast down here at the Ocala National Forest. Whenever they have forest fires helping out, the problem is a lot of these organizations are starting to get on with technology as well. So they're starting to get their own drones and doing all that type of stuff. So when it comes for outside sources, be like, hey, I can offer this and everything. We already have drone pilots. So it's one of those things. Again, not only are we progressing on it, a lot of the state and federal agencies are as well.
[00:30:45] Speaker B: Yeah, it makes sense.
[00:30:46] Speaker A: I totally agree. I just think you in that state agricultural drones.
I just think it's such a good tool for people with orchards or even row crops. I don't know if you guys do a bunch of row crops or like beef cattle farms, like those types of things. They all need sprayed and those drones can get into places and do acres, cover a ton of acres. Everybody thinks they hear a drone spraying. They kind of chuckle. It's laugh, like, yeah, right. You're not going to spray 300 acres. I will spray that 300 acres in a snap of a finger with a couple of drones. I just think that Florida where you're at, you will see way more spray drones than other drones down there.
[00:31:36] Speaker C: Well, it's like other things you can also use them for. We've got a lot of evasive plant life that a lot of these agencies can't get to. You can fly back there and spray those.
Obviously we have all kinds of different fish and stuff around here, so we have our hatcheries and all that that you can easily utilize a lot of these drones for. It's endless amounts of stuff you can actually want to do if you were to get into it.
[00:32:02] Speaker A: Do you have anything else you want to add to this?
[00:32:06] Speaker C: Yeah, the only thing I can say is, yes, I do work for FWC down here, but a lot of these things that we talk about when it comes to drones are my own either personal experiences, things I've seen. I don't actually speak for the agency, so when it comes out and be like, well, FWC says do this, the only thing I can say is just try to read your local rules and regulations when it comes to your state laws, if you do not know, reach out to somebody. They should be able to give you the best answers moving forward 100%.
[00:32:36] Speaker B: The way to go into this for thermal drone pilots, listening is collaboration, working together. This is not animosity this is not us against the state. It doesn't have to be that way. It can really be respectful, working together, really helping the hunter, helping the state.
So, yeah. Appreciate you being on Marcus. It's good to connect again.
[00:32:56] Speaker A: Yeah, thanks for popping on. I'm sure you other things that you could be doing and you chose to talk with us, so I do appreciate that.
[00:33:05] Speaker C: No problem.
[00:33:07] Speaker B: So that was Marcus.
[00:33:08] Speaker A: Yeah. That's cool.
What I think is really cool is he works for the state, right. As a warden, and he sees how this can be an absolute tool to help sportsmen and just a good guy.
[00:33:22] Speaker B: Overall, and he's got such a unique perspective. Having done this for a couple of years, he's got all the stories. He knows how there's this gray line, but really it's about operating ethically, honoring the animal. He has a lot of leeway in understanding the intent of the pilot of the hunter.
[00:33:41] Speaker A: Absolutely.
[00:33:43] Speaker B: And I think we've spoken to game wardens who are divided on how this should be used.
[00:33:51] Speaker A: Like, one game warden is like, no, and then the next is like, yeah.
[00:33:55] Speaker B: I think it'd be good in the same booth. You remember that one time it was like, talk to this guy. He said, yeah, no, that sounds like, yeah, that's no problem. Not legal. Can't do it.
[00:34:04] Speaker A: Yeah, it is just a little yeah.
[00:34:08] Speaker B: This whole new industry, it's growing quick. I mean, the good thing about there's frustrations that come with it. Like the LP twelve right now, total disaster. A lot of you guys watching, you're probably frustrated like we are.
We've had our literally all of our.
[00:34:22] Speaker A: LP twelve s quit working.
[00:34:24] Speaker B: Did we have four or five of them?
[00:34:26] Speaker A: Four.
[00:34:28] Speaker B: They're all bricked.
[00:34:29] Speaker A: Yeah, they're all broke. Of course, we had to go buy more. And before I knew about this other light, I knew about the T 60 light, but I didn't believe.
So it only goes to 85 degrees. And I was like, we need 90. Well, I never used it. Finally, there was no other option. I had to use one of those lights and I use it, I'm like, what in the Sam Hill? Yeah. Why wasn't I using this in the beginning? So no questions asked. If you're going to do drone deer recovery and you do not need a speaker, if you're doing search and rescue and you need a speaker, then you're still going to need the LP Twelve. But if you don't need that, I believe that the T 60 will do just fine even if it only goes.
[00:35:10] Speaker B: And for pilots who have the LP twelve, but it's bricked. What we're recommending is you got to get the warranty process started. Unfortunately, there's no service centers that are US based that are able to handle this warranty. So ours have been in there for probably two months.
[00:35:24] Speaker A: It's a little ridiculous actually because think about it, this is a company that produces product. Now they have to take product back and fix it and it's not really.
[00:35:35] Speaker B: So you got to get that warrantied. If you have questions about that, we can help with answering those questions, but you got to get it warrantied and then you got to buy the JT 60 and you'll have both of those lights in your arsenal.
[00:35:46] Speaker A: Yeah, I think it'd be a good idea to have both because if somebody calls you because their child is missing in the corner or something, at least you can still use the speaker if you need to.
[00:35:57] Speaker B: Honestly, this season. Right. It's just a good lesson, I think for all of us pilots that when there's something as important as a spotlight for offering the service, you need to have a backup anyway.
[00:36:10] Speaker A: Yeah, you almost need a backup for a remote controller because we had one of our guys, well, he operates out of Wisconsin. He's not really associated with us, but he was a drone deer recovery license operator. He had his kind of brick or break his remote. Stop working, just stop working. Well, you can't fly a drone without a remote and calls are coming in and he's unable to do the service and so he's like, dude, I want two because I never thought of that. What if I'm like I set it on the back of the tailgate and it drops off and it breaks? Dude, I'm done. Like I have to get another remote. Never even thought of it. I mean, you can send it into DJI care, but it's going to take a week until you get so why not have one on a backup and be ready to go?
[00:36:57] Speaker B: Yeah, especially if you have a couple of drones.
[00:36:59] Speaker A: Makes sense.
[00:37:00] Speaker B: One or two backups.
[00:37:00] Speaker A: But it's those things, right? When you start out as a business, you don't think of all those things.
[00:37:06] Speaker B: And the exciting thing is the industry is growing. I mean the reason that right now it's China based and all that stuff, it's brand new. Like this stuff is coming out of China. By next season it will be better. It'll be smoother. We'll have better options, better service all around.
[00:37:22] Speaker A: Some serious growing pains, but fast growing pain.
[00:37:27] Speaker B: And this is what I think. I try to remind myself anytime that I'm just frustrated because of how hard it is to be in such a fast growing industry. Sometimes it's like you also are one of the first and there's huge upside for dealing with some of these hassles. You get a lot of upside for that, too, of being one of the first in this industry. And like Marcus said, if he wants to jump into AG, then the way the seasons line up and even that remote. You'll have the same remote for the AG drone? No, you don't have the same remote.
[00:38:04] Speaker A: I mean, it looks the same. It looks 100% the same. Different, but it has different firmware on the inside.
[00:38:10] Speaker B: You can't cross use it.
[00:38:11] Speaker A: No, can't cross use it. Dog gun.
[00:38:14] Speaker B: I know.
[00:38:14] Speaker A: I was already trying it to where I sent it up to Roger and he was going to kind of, like hack the thing. It's just not a good idea.
[00:38:22] Speaker B: So if the pressure that we're feeling now without a spotlight, if you think that's pressure, let's talk about the pressure of during season, spray season. Spray season. Having a drone down, you make money, lots of it in a very short amount of time.
[00:38:39] Speaker A: Yeah, but it's not just about you as operating it's. The farmer can't get his stuff sprayed. Now you are losing him money. It's pressure. Yeah.
[00:38:49] Speaker B: And a lot of those, like, if you're working for a chemical company, a lot of those, those are relationships that are earned. Trust is earned. The farmer believes when he pays you or whatever that you're going to be there. So that's why we're going to have a backup drone. It'll save you money.
[00:39:08] Speaker A: Just figure it in the budget. Just plan on having it in the budget to have spares because it is that vital.
[00:39:15] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:39:16] Speaker A: You guys listened to the podcast, a couple of different podcasts or seen it on a video about what we should name our big M 350 drone.
[00:39:25] Speaker B: What do we want to name it? Yeah.
[00:39:26] Speaker A: The big daddy drone.
[00:39:28] Speaker B: So in this live, Mike has not seen all these, but Mike, by the end of this podcast is going to decide what that drone is called.
[00:39:35] Speaker A: What if I don't agree with any of them?
[00:39:37] Speaker B: You'll have to just come up with whatever you oh, crap. Okay, let's put the pressure on.
[00:39:42] Speaker A: All right, so I guess we'll get started.
[00:39:44] Speaker B: We hope your guys'suggestions are good. That's all I can say.
[00:39:48] Speaker A: So how many are we going to choose from? I forget. Because there could be like 100 of these things and we're not doing 110. Okay.
[00:39:56] Speaker B: All right. So Austin's picked the ten best option.
[00:39:58] Speaker A: Yeah. Let's go for it.
Definitely not working.
[00:40:10] Speaker B: Dronezilla working with the audio.
[00:40:13] Speaker A: I like the bouncing.
[00:40:16] Speaker B: It'll give you a headache after a while, but yeah. Dronezilla. What do you think? Yeah. Is that like one out of ten? Just go from your gut.
[00:40:24] Speaker A: Like a two.
[00:40:24] Speaker B: Two. Okay, well, John Zobo, 440. Nine. That's a two. Thanks for your input. Next name? It Hercules.
[00:40:33] Speaker A: That I kind of like I'm at, like, a 6.2.
[00:40:38] Speaker B: All right. Keith. Wow.
[00:40:40] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:40:40] Speaker B: Six point so far.
[00:40:41] Speaker A: Hercules.
[00:40:42] Speaker B: Best option night stalker.
Night Stalker or Phoenix?
[00:40:49] Speaker A: I don't know.
I'm on a three.
Not feeling that. Night Stalker.
[00:40:56] Speaker B: Oh, boy.
[00:40:57] Speaker A: Call her Big Betty.
[00:40:58] Speaker B: Betty, man, there's no way.
Are you serious? It reminds me of, like, a Big Bertha or something. Like what's?
[00:41:07] Speaker A: A bertha.
[00:41:07] Speaker B: An oversized cow.
[00:41:08] Speaker A: Oh, okay. Big Betty is an oversized cow.
[00:41:11] Speaker B: I don't know. That's the image I see.
[00:41:14] Speaker A: Yeah, probably not that then. Okay, we'll keep going. These would be better if we'd have audio.
[00:41:19] Speaker B: The droneinator.
[00:41:22] Speaker A: I like that because it eliminates deer, technically, but finds them. That could be it.
[00:41:31] Speaker B: Well, won't that be the deerinator?
[00:41:33] Speaker A: I think I'm like the buccinator.
[00:41:36] Speaker B: Hold on. If it's a droneinator, it's eliminating other drones.
[00:41:40] Speaker A: Oh, yeah.
[00:41:40] Speaker B: It needs to be like the buccinator.
[00:41:43] Speaker A: It's eliminating buck.
[00:41:44] Speaker B: Well, that doesn't really make sense.
If you got to explain a name, it's not a good name.
[00:41:50] Speaker A: Yeah.
What else we got here?
[00:41:54] Speaker B: Megalodrone.
[00:41:55] Speaker A: Oh, kind of like megalodon.
[00:41:57] Speaker B: Oh, that's cool.
[00:41:58] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:41:58] Speaker B: The Megalodrone.
[00:41:59] Speaker A: That's kind of witty in the water, but smells blood in the air. Maybe we don't really go based on blood. We go based on dude. There's surely there's something that there's a predator or something that walks the Earth and can see in thermal. Is there something like that?
[00:42:17] Speaker B: That's a movie, Mike.
[00:42:18] Speaker A: Oh, it is?
Wouldn't that be sketchy? I don't know if that's would that be sketchy? If you have an animal that could read in thermal and he could just.
[00:42:29] Speaker B: Did you ever watch there's a movie called where this monster it goes by sound, so as long as you're completely quiet, it can't see. It just has so good sense of hearing.
[00:42:41] Speaker A: I think thermal would be the worst. Right?
It couldn't hear, it couldn't do any of that. But as long as it has thermal, as long as you're alive, you're going.
[00:42:49] Speaker B: To have okay, so you're being stalked by a monster who's using thermal. Based on what you know of how thermal works, what do you do to evade that monster?
[00:43:02] Speaker A: Get in cold water.
[00:43:03] Speaker B: And you just going to live there for a while?
[00:43:07] Speaker A: Well, underneath the water, because if my head is above the water, I'm still going to have thermal.
[00:43:12] Speaker B: So would you not fill up your bathtub full of pipe and hot water? You get in the bathtub.
[00:43:19] Speaker A: Why hot water?
[00:43:20] Speaker B: Because then your body okay. It's more comfortable than cold.
[00:43:23] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:43:23] Speaker B: I'm not going to sit for hours in freezing temperature water.
[00:43:26] Speaker A: Yeah. And then become color.
[00:43:29] Speaker B: Yeah. Right. And so you see thermal, but then the monster just comes to drink out of the hot tub or whatever. So really, if you think about this the very best okay, this is official.
[00:43:39] Speaker A: Oh, my gosh.
[00:43:40] Speaker B: If you ever need to evade a thermal seeing monster, then what you want is a hot tub.
[00:43:47] Speaker A: Well, that thermal thing is probably my drone looking for you.
[00:43:50] Speaker B: Okay, well, if you ever try and evade Mike and his thermal drone jump into a hot tub, you'll be invisible.
[00:43:57] Speaker A: That's probably a valid point.
[00:43:59] Speaker B: That's good. Yeah.
[00:43:59] Speaker A: I didn't even think of is you're going to have to live there for a while.
[00:44:05] Speaker B: Yeah, we should test that.
[00:44:06] Speaker A: Yeah. Because you won't be able to get out of that hot water. And then you're going to because then.
[00:44:12] Speaker B: You'Re going to be like yeah.
[00:44:13] Speaker A: Then you'll stick out like a real sorcerer. You're going to run away from me, like a mile away. There he goes.
[00:44:21] Speaker B: So if you had to walk around and evade so now you're going to go walk to the store and you're trying not to get killed on the way to the super.
[00:44:30] Speaker A: I have an idea.
No, tinfoil. I was going to say wrap yourself in tinfoil.
[00:44:35] Speaker B: Tinfoil. Yeah.
[00:44:36] Speaker A: But that tinfoil is going to get warm.
[00:44:37] Speaker B: All the bigfoot lovers love that.
So tinfoil, that would work. Mike and why would that not work?
[00:44:43] Speaker A: Because the tinfoil is going to get warm if it's stuck on you.
[00:44:47] Speaker B: So you have some clothing and then.
[00:44:50] Speaker A: Tinfoil around the clothing, then I think they're talking. So put like a big jacket and then put that I mean, that would.
[00:44:57] Speaker B: Actually be easy to test. I mean, right.
[00:45:00] Speaker A: You will look real shiny walking around.
[00:45:03] Speaker B: I'm going to say what we got to do.
[00:45:05] Speaker A: You'd sound like Tin Man.
You've seen him, right?
[00:45:08] Speaker B: But the monster has no ears. Yeah, it's going to work great.
[00:45:11] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:45:12] Speaker B: So what we got to do is have you guys submit your ideas on how to evade the megalodrone. Right. The megalodrone is out there flying. He's eating up whoever he can eat. How do you evade him? How do you want to see Mike evade?
[00:45:27] Speaker A: What? Wait, you I fly the drone.
[00:45:30] Speaker B: I don't make the no.
[00:45:32] Speaker A: Yeah, you did. You just made you you try to get away from me.
[00:45:36] Speaker B: So it's going to be Kevin, austin kevin. And we're going to draw short sticks.
[00:45:41] Speaker A: Okay.
You just got included without even welcome.
[00:45:45] Speaker B: Austin I have nothing to do with mean, I kind of want to see this, actually. I want to see a tinfoiled mic coming out of really cold water. I think that would be interesting. I think that maybe we do a.
[00:46:02] Speaker A: Lot of people are going, but you do it. I fly the drone. I know what I'm looking at on thermal.
We got to take you out. We got to teach you how to fly these drones yet.
[00:46:11] Speaker B: Yeah, actually, that's something that we got to do. I keep saying that once it slows.
[00:46:14] Speaker A: Down, once it slows down, then it'll be with agricultural oh, well, no, here's.
[00:46:19] Speaker B: What I'm going to do. I'm going to learn how to shoot. You're going to teach me how to shoot a bow.
[00:46:22] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. I was watching that video this morning. You're just like, I'll just come grab your bow and I'll practice the target.
[00:46:29] Speaker B: No, I realize it's probably not that easy.
[00:46:32] Speaker A: Did you know you said you'll practice the target?
[00:46:35] Speaker B: I did kind of think about that later.
I was just so excited. Mike I don't watch hunting content, although the whitetail adrenaline I keep seeing, like I follow them on instagram. I keep seeing the new teaser.
[00:46:51] Speaker A: Oh, you're coming over to watch to.
[00:46:53] Speaker B: I want to come over and I want to watch it.
[00:46:55] Speaker A: Here's the deal, folks. Jared put so much time in that it is the best unscripted hunting related content available in the world. I mean, it's that real.
[00:47:11] Speaker B: And you and I were talking earlier because we're trying to plan like we want to make stuff. You guys want to watch real?
And you were saying as a camera guy for Jeff jared. Jared.
[00:47:24] Speaker A: Sorry, jared.
[00:47:25] Speaker B: Sorry, jared, I am a huge fan.
But you were saying as a camera know you would arrive and you don't know where you're going.
[00:47:37] Speaker A: You don't know. Yeah, because the way this came up is you were like, well, you had to know where you're going. I'm like, not at all. I'd arrive in Wisconsin and get in his truck and we're driving and I know we're going west and that's about.
[00:47:52] Speaker B: As much as I know get there. Doesn't feel right. Doesn't look like don't want it. Move on, go somewhere else. So why are we talking about this?
[00:48:02] Speaker A: About real?
[00:48:03] Speaker B: About real authentic.
I was just saying I don't see hunting. I've never watched hunting videos.
I've never been a hunter.
I think I'm a hunter. I'm starting to see myself as a hunter.
[00:48:18] Speaker A: I don't know that you're a hunter yet.
[00:48:20] Speaker B: What are the rules? What do I need to do to be called a hunter?
[00:48:23] Speaker A: You definitely have to go hunt deer.
[00:48:25] Speaker B: I killed a deer.
[00:48:26] Speaker A: Yeah, but I told you this story.
[00:48:28] Speaker B: He dropped instantly.
[00:48:30] Speaker A: Yeah. Did you gut the deer? Did you drag it out? Did you skin it?
[00:48:35] Speaker B: I did drag it out on the back of the four wheeler.
[00:48:38] Speaker A: Yeah. My gosh.
[00:48:40] Speaker B: And I took it to the butchers. Yeah, I did do so you didn't.
[00:48:43] Speaker A: Do a lot of it.
[00:48:44] Speaker B: So are you going to teach me to gut a deer and skin it?
[00:48:47] Speaker A: I'll show you what to do. Yeah.
Dude, we do have to film this. You actually never gutted a deer, did you?
[00:48:53] Speaker B: No.
[00:48:55] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:48:55] Speaker B: What I've seen about we're going out tonight.
[00:48:59] Speaker A: I'm planning it right now because they're going to say you're busy. Yeah. You're going to say you're busy or you're doing something and we're going tonight.
[00:49:06] Speaker B: The most that I know about gutting a deer is what I've learned from star wars.
There is this, and Austin, I don't know if you've seen this, but I don't know what movie it is, but they're trying to hide from the cold. They kill this dinosaur looking thing, scrape its guts out, crawl inside. Room for three. I think there's room for three.
All I'm saying is I feel like I know the basics. Like, I know that you slip down the middle, right stomach, you pull it out. You have gloves.
[00:49:42] Speaker A: Oh, actually, no, you definitely have to do it without gloves.
[00:49:46] Speaker B: Why? Because is this not 2023?
[00:49:50] Speaker A: No, it is.
That's probably a point of opinion, too, right? Like some people say, Austin, you got.
[00:49:57] Speaker B: To do it with gloves.
[00:49:57] Speaker A: I have never done it with gloves.
[00:49:59] Speaker B: You've never done it with gloves?
[00:50:00] Speaker A: You haven't with gloves? Yeah. No, I haven't done it with gloves.
[00:50:03] Speaker B: I just always get in there. All I can say is, when it comes to hunting deer, I haven't done that. I have hunted kangaroo. Did you know?
[00:50:12] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. That's different. You don't take the guts out of those dope.
[00:50:20] Speaker B: Those were I was on a farm.
[00:50:22] Speaker A: They're kind of like in Australia.
[00:50:24] Speaker B: They're vermin. Yeah, it's like vermin nuisance, animals, whatever.
[00:50:28] Speaker A: And then you just shoot them and leave them?
[00:50:30] Speaker B: Yep. Well, you drag them off so you don't break the combine. But oh, they're out in the field. Out in the fields? Yeah, out in the farm fields.
[00:50:37] Speaker A: So, no, what you do is you.
[00:50:39] Speaker B: Go out there three guys on the back of a gun with shotguns and.
[00:50:42] Speaker A: Three guys back on a truck.
[00:50:43] Speaker B: On the back of a truck.
[00:50:44] Speaker A: You said three guys on a gun.
[00:50:46] Speaker B: I'm excited.
Okay? This is not the point. The whole point of this is that now that I've seen hunting, I see these videos, like the video that we produced about your hunt, and for the first time, I feel like a thump thump. I almost can imagine. Like, I get it. I feel like I'm starting to get why people spend ungodly amounts of money on this. And I'm starting to worry a little bit, like, you don't want to be that guy. I can't afford to be that guy. We have got to sell more drones, guys. Would you please buy a drone?
[00:51:22] Speaker A: Or merch.
[00:51:22] Speaker B: Or merch.
[00:51:23] Speaker A: Merch doesn't make much.
[00:51:25] Speaker B: You have to buy a lot of merch.
[00:51:27] Speaker A: But.
[00:51:30] Speaker B: I told my wife, I don't know, but I need to go buy a gun. So she gave me the thumbs up. She said yes.
[00:51:36] Speaker A: It was that easy.
[00:51:37] Speaker B: I'm starting with a nine millimeter.
[00:51:39] Speaker A: Well, you can't take that hunting.
[00:51:41] Speaker B: I'm not going to. But it's like, what are you going.
[00:51:43] Speaker A: To do with a nine?
There's nothing like that's self defense stuff.
[00:51:49] Speaker B: It is self defense stuff.
[00:51:52] Speaker A: That's not hunting.
[00:51:53] Speaker B: I know it's not, but it's like.
[00:51:55] Speaker A: That'S the first gun you're going to buy.
[00:51:57] Speaker B: Is that a mistake?
[00:51:58] Speaker A: I don't know. I'm just asking. Is that the first gun?
[00:52:02] Speaker B: Yeah. I don't have any gun.
[00:52:04] Speaker A: Don't say that too loud.
[00:52:05] Speaker B: I feel like I should have a gun and I don't have a gun. And it was between that and AR 15.
[00:52:13] Speaker A: The two guns that people have issues with.
[00:52:17] Speaker B: Yeah. I don't know. I feel like this is not the point. Again, the point of this whole segment is I'm starting to get why people love hunting, and I'm fearful that I may become one of those people.
[00:52:30] Speaker A: You might be addicted and spend a bunch of money.
[00:52:32] Speaker B: So once I have time, Mike, you got to train me and teach me how to do this.
[00:52:35] Speaker A: Okay, we're going to do it. Are we done with Megalodrone? No, we're only halfway through. Oh, no.
Okay. That was a long megatron. Call the drone Megatron.
[00:52:48] Speaker B: That's like a robot or something.
[00:52:50] Speaker A: Okay, megadron.
[00:52:53] Speaker B: Hugh wants to have a drone called.
[00:52:55] Speaker A: The Big Daddy, not me.
[00:52:56] Speaker B: Yeah, no. Going to hard pass on that one.
[00:52:58] Speaker A: Let's just do a couple more and then we'll wrap drynosaurus.
[00:53:01] Speaker B: Dronasaurus.
[00:53:03] Speaker A: Megalodrone is probably my yeah, so far.
[00:53:05] Speaker B: That'S the one to beat. What else we have? Call it the eagle.
[00:53:11] Speaker A: Could call it the.
[00:53:18] Speaker B: End. I mean, seems like a pretty clear winner.
[00:53:21] Speaker A: Magalodrone.
[00:53:22] Speaker B: Magalodrone. I like that.
[00:53:23] Speaker A: It kind of has a good ring to maybe. Maybe it's magalodrone. I'm not making an executive decision at this time, but it's looking like it's.
[00:53:32] Speaker B: Going to be that.
[00:53:33] Speaker A: I thought this was what the whole thing was about, this work into putting this thing together, and we're not making an executive decision.
[00:53:42] Speaker B: What do you need to make an executive decision?
[00:53:47] Speaker A: You guys caught me off guard. Like, I did not know I have to come in this.
[00:53:50] Speaker B: You got to be prepared, Mike. In season. Out of season.
[00:53:53] Speaker A: Okay. It'll be megalodrone until I change it.
[00:53:59] Speaker B: All right, you've heard it here first. It's Megalodrone.
[00:54:02] Speaker A: Let us know, guys. Like getting off of bunny trails like this where Kevin's talking about monsters and that type of thing. Do you guys want to hear us just talk about some of the ideas that we have when it comes down to thermal or just in general, like, who we are and what you might have going on in your life, or he wants to get into hunting, that type of thing? I think it's cool.
[00:54:23] Speaker B: Yeah. Let us know what you think, what you want to hear, and if you have questions, stuff you want us to talk about.
Yeah, Mike, we get a lot of the same questions from a lot of different people.
We need to talk about those.
[00:54:37] Speaker A: Yeah.
Well, is that all we're doing here for this one?
[00:54:42] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:54:42] Speaker A: Or do you have a specific question that somebody asked that they want to know about? Because if somebody has a question, let's just answer it now.
[00:54:47] Speaker B: Yeah, let's end with a good question. What are some questions we've been asked this week?
[00:54:52] Speaker A: A lot of them are around that video that went viral, lifting the deer.
How much weight can it pick up? Yeah, I tell people the max weight I picked up with it was 158 pounds. I would not maneuver with that weight. Maneuvering weight is probably 130 pounds, but that's experimental type stuff. This drone is an agricultural drone. And, yeah, I rigged some stuff up to do some experimenting with it. And yeah, I would tell you if you have one of these drones I'm not telling you to do this. This is just something I've done. But did you read any of the other comments? I didn't really.
[00:55:32] Speaker B: Yeah. Well, along this route, there was actually a couple of people I personally talked to this week that were asking.
I guess they're a little confused about the difference between the Matrice and the T 40. And they were thinking that they were wondering if it's possible to have to fix a light, like a thermal light, onto the T 40 AG drone so that you can get the best of both worlds. No, not possible.
[00:55:56] Speaker A: No, not even close. Completely different. Unless you want to fly for eight minutes and land. No, you can't do it. It's completely different.
[00:56:05] Speaker B: These drones are built specifically for certain applications. Not possible. So, thanks for watching.
This has been a podcast.
[00:56:14] Speaker A: Probably been our longest one yet.
[00:56:16] Speaker B: Yeah. We're hitting almost an hour. All right.
[00:56:18] Speaker A: Wow.
[00:56:18] Speaker B: Okay, well, it's been good.
[00:56:20] Speaker A: Yeah, it didn't feel like an hour. Did it feel like an hour?
[00:56:22] Speaker B: It didn't feel like an hour.
[00:56:23] Speaker A: Okay. Well, I appreciate it.
[00:56:24] Speaker B: Yeah. Thanks for watching, and we'll see you in the next one.